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		<title>By: tribalart</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>tribalart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and how can you make money in a game full of traders where all markup are really low and cant even payback the cost of what its requier to get stuff.

some common stuff like wool/hide/claw from monster; or oil,stone etc.
i cant think its true you can play without paying.SWEAT?? what a joke.
1k sweat for 5ped...

so even if you make 10k sweat, =50 ped. your chance to win any peds with this ammount is almost equal to zero.

and really i hope to see the day where entropia will be full of trader and
no more noob dogs to gather sweat for a ridiculous ammount of ped.
or selling stuff in low quantity for inexistant markup.


you spend all day to rob newbie money,because they have no choice.
economy is a joke.
so in my opinnion only old players with alot of stats can make money,and i have read alot about how was entropia before..maybe not all is true,but its look its was really more easy and less expensive than now to get equipement,stats ,house etc...

and all players who say its s a nice universe and with a brain you can make money. its NOT true.if you make money its only because someone else lose it.and its you and only you who screwed this game because you trying to make money only from other players, buying all with a inexistant markup and selling all weapons/tools etc with a big markup.


its how the world is.... yes but if we cant really change the world we dont need to play entropia for you.
and one day,i hope everyone stop paying for you.

yea its really a pyramidal system.


and for the end, when i have start playing, 2 global minning the first day with 0 minning skill (110 +40 peds).and ~ 2000 rifle point later +60$ ,
0 global, not even a 40 ped global... 1 time a moslik for 38 peds.

so i just wonder how many cash have pay people,
or when they have start before saying :
"you can play without paying"

try to make a new account and dont pay if you can play without pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and how can you make money in a game full of traders where all markup are really low and cant even payback the cost of what its requier to get stuff.</p>
<p>some common stuff like wool/hide/claw from monster; or oil,stone etc.<br />
i cant think its true you can play without paying.SWEAT?? what a joke.<br />
1k sweat for 5ped&#8230;</p>
<p>so even if you make 10k sweat, =50 ped. your chance to win any peds with this ammount is almost equal to zero.</p>
<p>and really i hope to see the day where entropia will be full of trader and<br />
no more noob dogs to gather sweat for a ridiculous ammount of ped.<br />
or selling stuff in low quantity for inexistant markup.</p>
<p>you spend all day to rob newbie money,because they have no choice.<br />
economy is a joke.<br />
so in my opinnion only old players with alot of stats can make money,and i have read alot about how was entropia before..maybe not all is true,but its look its was really more easy and less expensive than now to get equipement,stats ,house etc&#8230;</p>
<p>and all players who say its s a nice universe and with a brain you can make money. its NOT true.if you make money its only because someone else lose it.and its you and only you who screwed this game because you trying to make money only from other players, buying all with a inexistant markup and selling all weapons/tools etc with a big markup.</p>
<p>its how the world is&#8230;. yes but if we cant really change the world we dont need to play entropia for you.<br />
and one day,i hope everyone stop paying for you.</p>
<p>yea its really a pyramidal system.</p>
<p>and for the end, when i have start playing, 2 global minning the first day with 0 minning skill (110 +40 peds).and ~ 2000 rifle point later +60$ ,<br />
0 global, not even a 40 ped global&#8230; 1 time a moslik for 38 peds.</p>
<p>so i just wonder how many cash have pay people,<br />
or when they have start before saying :<br />
&#8220;you can play without paying&#8221;</p>
<p>try to make a new account and dont pay if you can play without pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Weight loss</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Weight loss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: make money online</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>make money online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;make money online&lt;/strong&gt;

What her friend did was to carry the BN flag and walk around asking people to vote.. At least thats what she was supposed to do. Instead, she carried the BN flag around, get paid for it, all the while telling people“ Don’ t vote for this flag.”</description>
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<p>What her friend did was to carry the BN flag and walk around asking people to vote.. At least thats what she was supposed to do. Instead, she carried the BN flag around, get paid for it, all the while telling people“ Don’ t vote for this flag.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mikee King BeNut</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikee King BeNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been a player of Entropia universe for over a year now, after spending a little over 2 thousand pounds over the full course of my online experience on EU, I have gained a sufficient amount of skills to be able to make money to play without depositing. Over the year I have met and spoke to serveral well accomplished and successful players eg Jon Neverdie Jacobs, he started off like most people playing the game and depositing cash to hone up skills became successful and got asked to become a spokesperson for EU for exhibitions etc. There isnt just those examples now there are hundeds of players with property making a mint from time and patience (mostly since EU began) Some even own a series of shops which they stock themselves, 1 weeks playing isn't long enough to make any serious cash. Would you get a multimillion pound/dallar company up and running in the real world in a week?                                                                                                                The game works on a looting system a bit like a game of chance (lottery) if you are lucky as some players are (uber players - high skilled players) can make thousands per day from Mind Ark and other Eu players All It Takes Is Patience and over time a few dollars turns into a few hundred dollars. YOU HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME IN THE UNIVERSE BEFORE COMMENTING ABOUT IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a player of Entropia universe for over a year now, after spending a little over 2 thousand pounds over the full course of my online experience on EU, I have gained a sufficient amount of skills to be able to make money to play without depositing. Over the year I have met and spoke to serveral well accomplished and successful players eg Jon Neverdie Jacobs, he started off like most people playing the game and depositing cash to hone up skills became successful and got asked to become a spokesperson for EU for exhibitions etc. There isnt just those examples now there are hundeds of players with property making a mint from time and patience (mostly since EU began) Some even own a series of shops which they stock themselves, 1 weeks playing isn&#8217;t long enough to make any serious cash. Would you get a multimillion pound/dallar company up and running in the real world in a week?                                                                                                                The game works on a looting system a bit like a game of chance (lottery) if you are lucky as some players are (uber players - high skilled players) can make thousands per day from Mind Ark and other Eu players All It Takes Is Patience and over time a few dollars turns into a few hundred dollars. YOU HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME IN THE UNIVERSE BEFORE COMMENTING ABOUT IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Wowsers</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-136</link>
		<dc:creator>Wowsers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lmao reading these comments. I imagine some of you ppl thought you could just start playing and looting mobs and you were gonna make all this money.

You have to be enterprising if you wanna make money, just like real life. You have to come up with ideas or provide unique services. There are many ppl who make monthly deposits and they are sustaining the economy.  You can offer to be bait for hunters and they will share thier loots with you. You can be a trader, and make money off the price fluctuations of different resources. You can take part in the many contests that take part in PE. You can join a society and they may offer to start you off with a low end gun and some ammo etc... I could list many ways to make money in this game.

People should be embracing the idea of this game because it's about time MMORPG's started to link thier economies to the real world. This creates a new element to gaming and will probably pave the way for some interesting ways to make money in the future.

Half of your these comments are " wahwah I played for a week and I'm not a millionaire yet"... come on ppl are you really that ignorant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lmao reading these comments. I imagine some of you ppl thought you could just start playing and looting mobs and you were gonna make all this money.</p>
<p>You have to be enterprising if you wanna make money, just like real life. You have to come up with ideas or provide unique services. There are many ppl who make monthly deposits and they are sustaining the economy.  You can offer to be bait for hunters and they will share thier loots with you. You can be a trader, and make money off the price fluctuations of different resources. You can take part in the many contests that take part in PE. You can join a society and they may offer to start you off with a low end gun and some ammo etc&#8230; I could list many ways to make money in this game.</p>
<p>People should be embracing the idea of this game because it&#8217;s about time MMORPG&#8217;s started to link thier economies to the real world. This creates a new element to gaming and will probably pave the way for some interesting ways to make money in the future.</p>
<p>Half of your these comments are &#8221; wahwah I played for a week and I&#8217;m not a millionaire yet&#8221;&#8230; come on ppl are you really that ignorant?</p>
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		<title>By: mrgh</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>mrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JUst to finally say before some zealot lambasts me and says you shouldnt hunt well I have traded as well , and midforce prices are gimped as well because of sweat, also trading is the only viable way to make money and bear in mind if you go this route EVEYONES got an angle, no one is sincere in game they cant afford to be and you have people standing around all day who have had contacts since the game came out who you will struggle to compete with - you also have grps of people intentionally doing stuff to price fix sweat , one buys shockingly low and the other buys just terribly low , so people run to sell there wares cheap only to find the to buyers change roles later. The only way yu will make and set yourself up imo trading initially is to sell very high to some unwitting newbies and sorry I just dont like treating people in this way but this is the kind of person that inhabbits PE that Ive found lately</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JUst to finally say before some zealot lambasts me and says you shouldnt hunt well I have traded as well , and midforce prices are gimped as well because of sweat, also trading is the only viable way to make money and bear in mind if you go this route EVEYONES got an angle, no one is sincere in game they cant afford to be and you have people standing around all day who have had contacts since the game came out who you will struggle to compete with - you also have grps of people intentionally doing stuff to price fix sweat , one buys shockingly low and the other buys just terribly low , so people run to sell there wares cheap only to find the to buyers change roles later. The only way yu will make and set yourself up imo trading initially is to sell very high to some unwitting newbies and sorry I just dont like treating people in this way but this is the kind of person that inhabbits PE that Ive found lately</p>
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		<title>By: mrgh</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>mrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ukari yeah something ive noticed , a high proportion of people seem to bag the odd 30ped frop here and there  when they first start playing, I know so many like this then as they gradually put cash in and get addicted slowly the drops get less, this is my personal experiance from depositing and by the way I have made money last but if I was to play the game like I played other games I could burst 200ped every 2 hours , easy granted I would get some good drops but always your money ends up getting chipped smaller each time and sometimes in a big chunk, make the hofs across the spectrum ma as in have newer player getting the odd rare but proper hof and you will get more players, keep gettng bad articles written like this and all the other stuff and you are going to get a really bad rep, actually start seeing players who just want to enjoy the gam,e in game and dont want to draw out money but just see the game , can some of the time. Fact is if the truth be told  if it wasnt for the alure of the addiction caused by gambling you would only have a fraction of people playing this game. (Brandishing the word virtual about like that justifys everything and a sub standard engine)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ukari yeah something ive noticed , a high proportion of people seem to bag the odd 30ped frop here and there  when they first start playing, I know so many like this then as they gradually put cash in and get addicted slowly the drops get less, this is my personal experiance from depositing and by the way I have made money last but if I was to play the game like I played other games I could burst 200ped every 2 hours , easy granted I would get some good drops but always your money ends up getting chipped smaller each time and sometimes in a big chunk, make the hofs across the spectrum ma as in have newer player getting the odd rare but proper hof and you will get more players, keep gettng bad articles written like this and all the other stuff and you are going to get a really bad rep, actually start seeing players who just want to enjoy the gam,e in game and dont want to draw out money but just see the game , can some of the time. Fact is if the truth be told  if it wasnt for the alure of the addiction caused by gambling you would only have a fraction of people playing this game. (Brandishing the word virtual about like that justifys everything and a sub standard engine)</p>
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		<title>By: mrgh</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>mrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A decent article(Some areas you should have got 100% clarified and if some of the replies are from MA employees just trying to run your article down you should post a follow up article with hard facts) and having played PE a while well all ive got to say to people who are putting out the fact they use PE to pay college well I believe thats utter nonsense - unless off course you are getting some help from MA?(Its funny how its people that seem to have some kind of ties to MA who are getting quite frankly articles written that will make me stay away from PE - theres too much bad PR for it all to be untrue as I see it and if it was 100% untrue im sure MA would sue , which they dont seem to be doing) Its like trying to say you can put 5 to 10 pounds in a gambling slot machine and pay your way to college. (Yeah right)

Also what MA has done to sweat has ruined the game compltely , its the virtual equivalent to slave labour. I have pe for a while and way back I knew people that did okay but these days I here of no players who i actually speak to online comming back with returns, even if some of what MA does is legit , I dont feel that everything they do is.

Fact is if you want to hunt to the same degree you would hunt in any game of that nature you could easly LOSE all your cash. You know what I see lots of hofs but I never see a run of the mill guy getting them , just some high high members on the MA unofficial forums, whos probably MAs pr payout for the month. Why cant MA make the odd newbie get a decent hof? I think its because they want to lure people that they can get big hofs later and all they ever do is throw away hundreds if not much more. Maybe PE used to work okay but its gotten really bad now adays and if you started playing 2 years ago and built your character skills in that time you cant really know how bad it is for new players now but it suits MA as new players need to risk lots of cash and maybe find out they hate the game where as before a small but managable amount was able to be made of the sweat, now newbies struggle to get it sold - when I played initially sweat was 5ped per 100 now it wouldnt surprise me if its down to .2 pec or something stupid like that. MA you have ruined the game.(But its okay for you to do so as you brandish the term virtual world about like the game is something new, no its nothing new, you lure people in (young people and all) to gamble and the actual game itself is comprised of sub standard graphics and gameplay. It offers nothing better than any other game of this type.(There are games with far superior quests and loot orientated systems where it is legal to sell your cash to other players but the company doesnt take money of players through a gambling like system)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A decent article(Some areas you should have got 100% clarified and if some of the replies are from MA employees just trying to run your article down you should post a follow up article with hard facts) and having played PE a while well all ive got to say to people who are putting out the fact they use PE to pay college well I believe thats utter nonsense - unless off course you are getting some help from MA?(Its funny how its people that seem to have some kind of ties to MA who are getting quite frankly articles written that will make me stay away from PE - theres too much bad PR for it all to be untrue as I see it and if it was 100% untrue im sure MA would sue , which they dont seem to be doing) Its like trying to say you can put 5 to 10 pounds in a gambling slot machine and pay your way to college. (Yeah right)</p>
<p>Also what MA has done to sweat has ruined the game compltely , its the virtual equivalent to slave labour. I have pe for a while and way back I knew people that did okay but these days I here of no players who i actually speak to online comming back with returns, even if some of what MA does is legit , I dont feel that everything they do is.</p>
<p>Fact is if you want to hunt to the same degree you would hunt in any game of that nature you could easly LOSE all your cash. You know what I see lots of hofs but I never see a run of the mill guy getting them , just some high high members on the MA unofficial forums, whos probably MAs pr payout for the month. Why cant MA make the odd newbie get a decent hof? I think its because they want to lure people that they can get big hofs later and all they ever do is throw away hundreds if not much more. Maybe PE used to work okay but its gotten really bad now adays and if you started playing 2 years ago and built your character skills in that time you cant really know how bad it is for new players now but it suits MA as new players need to risk lots of cash and maybe find out they hate the game where as before a small but managable amount was able to be made of the sweat, now newbies struggle to get it sold - when I played initially sweat was 5ped per 100 now it wouldnt surprise me if its down to .2 pec or something stupid like that. MA you have ruined the game.(But its okay for you to do so as you brandish the term virtual world about like the game is something new, no its nothing new, you lure people in (young people and all) to gamble and the actual game itself is comprised of sub standard graphics and gameplay. It offers nothing better than any other game of this type.(There are games with far superior quests and loot orientated systems where it is legal to sell your cash to other players but the company doesnt take money of players through a gambling like system)</p>
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		<title>By: Top 10 Revenue Models for Free To Play Games &#171; Free To Play</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top 10 Revenue Models for Free To Play Games &#171; Free To Play</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] uses land auctions as a revenue stream, but a recent headline-making $100,000 land sale has been called into question as the successful bidder is an employee of Entropia&#8217;s developer, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] uses land auctions as a revenue stream, but a recent headline-making $100,000 land sale has been called into question as the successful bidder is an employee of Entropia&#8217;s developer, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darthorious</title>
		<link>http://tinypirate.com/2005/11/10/project-entropias-clever-marketing-tricks/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Darthorious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not about trying to make money in it as some people are commenting on that's the easy part.  I have not paid a single red scent for anything in the game and easily make money.   It's the part about trying to withdraw real world currency that seems to be screwy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about trying to make money in it as some people are commenting on that&#8217;s the easy part.  I have not paid a single red scent for anything in the game and easily make money.   It&#8217;s the part about trying to withdraw real world currency that seems to be screwy.</p>
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